Re: An internal struggle between the "we" and the "me" on the community and IP September 30, 2013 03:37AM |
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Traumflug
No need to be a programmer to report issues/bug, but this is --pardon-- a typical excuse.
I'm not sure how to take this.
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Re: An internal struggle between the "we" and the "me" on the community and IP September 30, 2013 07:06AM |
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Microsoft doesn't expect it's customers to do that, Microsoft expects to have to do the testing itself
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I asked some questions on this forum about the "why" of some of the software and hardware concepts
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Re: An internal struggle between the "we" and the "me" on the community and IP September 30, 2013 07:33AM |
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Re: An internal struggle between the "we" and the "me" on the community and IP September 30, 2013 09:30AM |
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open source avoids the alternative of 'vertical integration/cooperation' which would create bigger(less flexible?) organizations, and centralization of power.
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Re: An internal struggle between the "we" and the "me" on the community and IP September 30, 2013 10:32AM |
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Microsoft doesn't expect it's customers to
> do that, Microsoft expects to have to do the
> testing itself
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I asked some questions on this forum about
> the "why" of some of the software and hardware
> concepts
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Re: An internal struggle between the "we" and the "me" on the community and IP September 30, 2013 05:19PM |
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It's ridiculous to talk about "RepRap copy shops" as if that is a bad thing. The whole point of RepRap is that it is to be copied!
It is a pity that some people can't get past the "what's in it for me?" thing and appreciate that Open Source is about giving, not taking.
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I buy only genuine arduino, rather than clones
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Re: An internal struggle between the "we" and the "me" on the community and IP September 30, 2013 05:30PM |
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Re: An internal struggle between the "we" and the "me" on the community and IP October 01, 2013 12:59PM |
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can someone provide a concise answer
Re: An internal struggle between the "we" and the "me" on the community and IP October 01, 2013 02:28PM |
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Re: An internal struggle between the "we" and the "me" on the community and IP October 01, 2013 02:51PM |
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It's ridiculous to talk about "RepRap
> copy shops" as if that is a bad thing. The whole
> point of RepRap is that it is to be copied!
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> It is a pity that some people can't get past the
> "what's in it for me?" thing and appreciate that
> Open Source is about giving, not taking.
Re: An internal struggle between the "we" and the "me" on the community and IP October 01, 2013 05:09PM |
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Just out of curiosity, about definition by what authority are you talking about? And in that respect, what licences are truly open source? Even GPL puts some restrictions on use, like you cannot modify the source and publish product without republishing source, right?Quote
bobc
Open Source is a formally defined thing, it is not just a woolly concept that you or I might want it to be. All Open Source licenses allow "for any use". It is one of the defining features of Open Source that distinguishes it from Closed Source! No Open Source organisation will ratify a license as OS if it includes a "restriction on use" clause.
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Re: An internal struggle between the "we" and the "me" on the community and IP October 02, 2013 05:02AM |
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So, trying to decide between NC or not NC for a hardware design is kind of a moot point - it doesn't matter either way because the CC license doesn't have any "legal teeth"
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bobc
The type of NC license you describe already exists: it is called Shareware.
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bobc
I am also not losing any $ profits - because I am not intending to make any.
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do you really believe for two minutes that putting the NC licence rather than GPL on any of the creations in this community would stop the Chinese putting it on Ebay?
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Even GPL puts some restrictions on use
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Re: An internal struggle between the "we" and the "me" on the community and IP October 02, 2013 10:08AM |
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It doesn't have to have "legal teeth". It's sufficient when people respect the intention and that's what (to date) mostly happens.
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Re: An internal struggle between the "we" and the "me" on the community and IP October 02, 2013 11:32AM |
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Re: An internal struggle between the "we" and the "me" on the community and IP October 03, 2013 06:19AM |
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You can't use GPL software to make your own closed source one.
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