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Hello,
after my original Hot-end died because the PTFE-liner inside melted I am wondering what is the maximum temperature for it. For the moment I use PrintBite and this requires a temperature setup of 125/250°C. Is this okay or already too high?
Best regards,
Sven
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Treito
Hello,
after my original Hot-end died because the PTFE-liner inside melted I am wondering what is the maximum temperature for it. For the moment I use PrintBite and this requires a temperature setup of 125/250°C. Is this okay or already too high?
Best regards,
Sven
How good is PrintBite? Have you tried it with ABS? As I've mentioned in another thread, I would like to find a print surface that I do not need to coat between prints. If PrintBite works, it would also hopefully also allow me to use DC42's Z sensor to set the Z home position without manual adjustment. Reading the instructions on the PrintBite site, it states that you *may* need to raise the temperature of the first layer by *up to* 10 deg for the first layer. I usually print with ABS at 230 degrees, so 240 should be the highest you need to go unless you are using a filament that requires a higher temperature than ABS (nylon?)
AFAICS "PrintBite" is the same as fibreglass PCB material.
Dave
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The price? The standard permanently bed surface here in Germany costs twice as PrintBite and for my forthcoming printer even three times more than PrintBite.
The price is okay for a durable bed surface and is similar with BuildTak, but BuildTak doesn't last very long.
The pattern is okay and that's the main difference to a normal FR4.
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For PLA it works quite good, but I still have trouble with little warping with PLA.
For ABS it works with the above settings and nearly no warping.
You need high temperatures especially for the first layer.
It is based on FR4, but the sticking is much better.
PrintBite is robust but very sensitive regarding the cleaner you use. Probably I have destroyed one, but it was not mentioned that you are not allowed to use special industrial cleaners. Only pure glass cleaner and Acetone seems to be okay.
However in Germany there is a surface called FilaPrint. As far as I know this surface should work better and gives a shiny surface without structures, but the price is nearly twice.
I think think I will give it a try next month.
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FilaPrint will perform out all the other materials regards to adhession, releasing, dutrability, healthiness for the User and the look of the bottom of the printed parts
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FilaPrint give you a stronger adhession than Buildtalk and once cooled down the parts remove very easily !
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I am using 125/250°C and I still have warping.
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Thanks. Unfortunately I am still waiting for my PrintBite to arrive. I hope it's not another fly-by-night company.
Dave
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