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Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP

Posted by alex773 
Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
May 02, 2019 07:50AM
Thank you, David.
I will try my best today and hopefully I'm not going to mess up something.
Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
May 02, 2019 11:09AM
When I turn the printer ON , the print fan is on. Is this normal ?
The Tool Fan and Fan 0 are at 30%
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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
May 02, 2019 01:25PM
Just curious, what version of the smart effector do you have?

Quote
alex773
I finally have the print fan duct installed on my smart effector.
How complicated is to do the PID tuning for my bed heater and the hotend ?
Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
May 02, 2019 05:42PM
FA-MAS Smart Effector version V 1.3
Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
May 02, 2019 06:03PM
Running PID Auto Tuning on my hot end.
24V, 40W Heater Cartridge on E3D V6 with Silicone sock.
Please see the attachment for results.
Thank you
Do I have to modify something or just save it ?

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/03/2019 11:18AM by alex773.
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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
May 03, 2019 04:21PM
I was curious, it looked different than mine and I knew there were 2 versions.

On your PID Autotune, your PWM Frequency is too high.

Use:
M303 H1 P0.5 S240

If you get messages stating that it failed to reach target temperature, increase P parameter to 0.6 or 0.7 (I had to use 0.7)

After it's done, send M307 H1

It should report the values for Gain (A), Constant (C) and Dead Time (D)
You'll construct an M307 command to put in your config.g

OR

If you're using config-override.g just send an M500. If you are, you should have an M501 at the end of your config.g
Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
May 03, 2019 04:28PM
Thank you FA-MAS. I will run it tonight and post the results.
Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
May 03, 2019 11:08PM
I run the PID Autotune with P0.5 and P0.6 : Auto tune cancelled because target temperature was not reached.
Then I run it with P0.7 and P0.8 . Please see the attachment for results.
Thank you
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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
May 04, 2019 02:36AM
Run M303 with no P parameter, so that it defaults to P1. The P parameter hasn't been needed since the tuning firmware was changed about 2 years ago, except in the case that the heater is substantially over-powered.



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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
May 04, 2019 08:14AM
Thank you David for your input.
I run M303 H1 with no P parameter.
Please see the attachment for results.
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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
May 06, 2019 03:09AM
Looks good, although the heater is somewhat over powered.



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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
May 06, 2019 11:21AM
Thank you David
This is what I have in Config.g right now:

; Heaters
M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; Disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
M305 P0 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
M143 H0 S120 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
M305 P1 X200 ; Configure PT100 for heater 1
M143 H1 S320 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 320C


Is this the right command for Hotend ?
H307 H1 A635.2 C343.6 D4.4 V24.2 B0
If yes, where should I put it ?
Thank you
Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
May 06, 2019 12:33PM
Quote
alex773
Thank you David
This is what I have in Config.g right now:

; Heaters
M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; Disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
M305 P0 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
M143 H0 S120 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
M305 P1 X200 ; Configure PT100 for heater 1
M143 H1 S320 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 320C


Is this the right command for Hotend ?
H307 H1 A635.2 C343.6 D4.4 V24.2 B0
If yes, where should I put it ?
Thank you

That's correct. It doesn't matter where in config.g you put it, I would put it before the M305 H1 command to keep the heater 1 commands together. If you have a config-override.g file, make sure that it doesn't also contain a M307 H1 command.



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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
May 06, 2019 01:01PM
Thank you David
This is the config.g right now :
; Heaters
M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; Disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
M305 P0 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
M143 H0 S120 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
H307 H1 A635.2 C343.6 D4.4 V24.2 B0
M305 P1 X200 ; Configure PT100 for heater 1
M143 H1 S320 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 320C
Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
May 06, 2019 09:34PM
I run M303 H0 with no P parameter for the bed heater.

Please see the attachment for results.
Thank you
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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
May 07, 2019 02:15AM
The command you add to config.g should be M307 not H307. I missed that last time.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/07/2019 02:16AM by dc42.



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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
May 07, 2019 07:26AM
Thank you David.
I changed the H with M.
Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
May 07, 2019 07:48AM
Do I have to change something for the bed heater ?
Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
May 07, 2019 04:46PM
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alex773
Do I have to change something for the bed heater ?

Yes, copy the bed heater model parameters into the M307 H0 command in config.g.

Note, it's also possible to use M500 after tuning to copy the model into config-override.g file automatically. But many users prefer not to use config-override.g.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/07/2019 04:46PM by dc42.



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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
May 07, 2019 06:27PM
Thank you David.
I'm so happy because I'm done with the PID.
What is the best way to test and calibrate the Z probe ?
Thank you
Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
May 08, 2019 02:56AM
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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
May 08, 2019 08:51AM
Thank you David.
I'm going to work on this today
Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
May 08, 2019 12:06PM
This is the config.g right now for Heaters :
; Heaters
M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; Disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
M307 H0 A278.0 C1612.7 D19.6 V24.2 B0
M305 P0 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
M143 H0 S120 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
M307 H1 A635.2 C343.6 D4.4 V24.2 B0
M305 P1 X200 ; Configure PT100 for heater 1
M143 H1 S320 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 320C
Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
May 08, 2019 12:09PM
I think I have a problem with the Print Fan.
When I turn the printer ON , the print fan is on. Is this normal ?
The Tool Fan and Fan 0 are at 30%

This is the config.g right now for Fans :

; Fans
M106 P0 S0.3 I0 F500 H-1 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/08/2019 12:33PM by alex773.
Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
May 08, 2019 07:36PM
Here's what my fan section looks like.
My print cooling fan is off until I send it a gcode to turn it on.

; Fans
M106 P0 S0 I0 F500 H-1 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on

I think it's your S parameter, I believe if it's in the format of #.# it expects a 0.0 for off and 0.1 for on, I believe 0.3 is thought of the same as 0.1 meaning on.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/08/2019 07:38PM by FA-MAS.
Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
May 08, 2019 08:53PM
Thank you FA-MAS.
I will change the S parameter tonight and will let you know.
Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
May 08, 2019 10:14PM
FA-MAS, I changed the S parameter and now the fan is off when I turn on the printer. Thank you
Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
May 08, 2019 10:32PM
I heat up the Bed to 90 degrees C and the Hot end to 205 degrees C and I did the Test and Calibrate the Z probe.
For the first test I left a sheet of paper on the bed for all the measurements .
Please see the attachment for results.
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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
May 08, 2019 11:34PM
For the second test I heated up the Bed to 90 degrees C and the Hot end to 205 degrees C and I used the paper only before I sent the command G92 Z0 .
Please see the attachment for results.
What is the correct value from test one or test two results that I need to add it to the config.g in G31 commend ? Thank you in advance.
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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
May 09, 2019 10:08AM
From the Duet Smart Effector Documentation,
All you need is

G31 P100 X0 Y0 Z-0.1

I used that, and didn't change anything else.

When I power the machine on, I home it (G28), then move the nozzle to 5 mm above the bed, then run G30 with no parameters to set the Z0, and then run G32 to run Autocalibration.

I only bring the nozzle to 130C, so no plastic oozes out but it's still hot enough to have expanded. I have my bed at 60C

Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/09/2019 01:38PM by FA-MAS.
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