Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 18, 2016 06:09PM |
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Anyone got a recommended inductive sensor, Mine just arrived and its to big to fit into any of the brackets I've printed. I got the 8mm sensing one.
I think most of the inductive sensor are the same diameter (14mm), the Capacitive Sensor I'm currently testing is 12mm. What bracket are you trying to use and what Extruder?
Sonny
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Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 18, 2016 06:14PM |
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Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 18, 2016 06:17PM |
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Anyone got a recommended inductive sensor, Mine just arrived and its to big to fit into any of the brackets I've printed. I got the 8mm sensing one.
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 18, 2016 06:19PM |
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I started the wikia page - [folgertech.wikia.com]
Please go enter info for what you know!
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 18, 2016 06:20PM |
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Anyone got a recommended inductive sensor, Mine just arrived and its to big to fit into any of the brackets I've printed. I got the 8mm sensing one.
I think most of the inductive sensor are the same diameter (14mm), the Capacitive Sensor I'm currently testing is 12mm. What bracket are you trying to use and what Extruder?
Sonny
Side Note: I there a way to make my sig show up every time I reply or do I have to check the "Add my sig..." box every time!?!?
I think I found it, it is under Control Center - Options - Forum Setting
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 18, 2016 06:23PM |
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Anyone got a recommended inductive sensor, Mine just arrived and its to big to fit into any of the brackets I've printed. I got the 8mm sensing one.
I'm using the 4mm sense distance one from folger which is 12mm but am thinking about upgrading to an 8mm as it makes me nervous how close it has to be. (I'm using a sheet of 28ga galvanized steel between the glass and heater - had to bump my temp a bit but otherwise working great.)
I could easily tweak the bracket I made for mine to add a different sized loop if you'd like: [www.thingiverse.com]
The OpenSCAD code is here: [gist.github.com] you could probably just tweak lines 16/17 to change the size of the loop, might have to adjust the translation of it on line 13 a bit if it's a big change. (Unfortunately the nested translations make this kind of confusing...but I just kind of tossed it together as I went and can't be bothered to go back and clean it up to make it easier to edit.)
Give it a try - OpenSCAD is a small download and not that scary once you start messing around with a simple model
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 18, 2016 06:25PM |
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Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 18, 2016 07:50PM |
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Happy with the E3d V6 so far, and the extruder remix that rippa posted.
Venturing back into PETG, did a Benchy without much preparation and surprisingly it turned out great.
Just picked up Simplify3D, getting used to it now..
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 18, 2016 08:46PM |
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Any recommendations on a "good" one?
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 18, 2016 10:25PM |
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Hi
I have an issue. I got my printer built and everything calibrated (end stops, motor voltage, etc..). I printed a couple little parts; filament temp calibration stack, calibration cube and a few other little things. everything was working great. I was printing a couple parts from an SD card when the raft wasn't sticking to the bed. I canceled the print and was going to hook my computer up to use Repetier. When I plugged the USB into my surface pro, the computer shut off instantly and the LCD contrast got extremely high, it was full of white squares. There was also a little smoke coming from the board area (couldn't tell exactly which one).
Here is what I know after this happened:
1. The arduino isn't seen when the RAMPS board is attached. I took it off and connected it by itself and all was fine.
2. The motor voltage is 2x - 3x higher than what I set them to yesterday. I had the motor voltage set to 200mv - 350mv depending on the axis. I set them by lowering them until they stop and then turning them up until they ran smoothly.
3. The SD Card is no longer recognized when inserted into the LCD.
4. The power supply seems okay. Voltage is steady.
5. I've inspected the boards for solder bridging and evidence of where the smoke was coming from but seen nothing.
6. Was working great....
Any help will be greatly appreciated!
Happened to a few people before, reach out to folgertech is option 1 and tell them you got a bad ramps. Personally I would just buy a known good one myself. You'll just get another one from the same crappy batch. Folgertech knows this and has done nothing.
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 18, 2016 10:29PM |
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Anyone got a recommended inductive sensor, Mine just arrived and its to big to fit into any of the brackets I've printed. I got the 8mm sensing one.
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 19, 2016 01:27AM |
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I've had my 2020 up and running for a few weeks now. Build almost completely stock for now. I'm having a problem with the temperature control for the bed. No matter what the temp is set for, it just goes full on. I've even turned it off in Slic3r and it still heats up.
I'm not sure what to try next and wondering if anyone else has seen this problem.
Will the new version of the software help?
Or is it a hardware issue with the Ramps board?
Sounds like a problem with the ramps, possibly a bad mosfet.
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 19, 2016 11:05AM |
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Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 19, 2016 01:14PM |
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How much different than the oiginal Prusia I3 is this printer?
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 19, 2016 01:19PM |
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How much different than the oiginal Prusia I3 is this printer?
The main thing is the much more rigid aluminum frame, motors at the top, and a lot fewer 3d printed parts. The original Prusa i3 uses a flat piece of acrylic or wood as the vertical portion, with rods bolted into the bottom to hold the Y axis setup, which form the entirety of the frame. The acrylic is subject to deformation from the heat and general flexibility, but works well for most people. Folgertech sells this kit also - their acrylic Prusa i3 is pretty much exactly the standard Prusa i3, except the extruder is stronger cast plastic, not 3D printed.
The currently shipping Folgertech 2020 i3 uses a mk9 extruder, which from all accounts works better than the "mk10" on the Wanhao i3. The rigid 2020 aluminum box frame is very solid and the same construction as used in most custom factory and industrial machinery installations. Those small steel L inserts that join the corners hold them firmly at 90 degrees and keep everything square. The results from my printer, in the original stock form, were as good as my friends Wanhao duplicator, and with my modifications, seem to be better.
The Wanhao has a lot going for it. Out of the box it is a working printer. It has better bearings. It has more metal parts, and more solid construction, but the Melzi controller it includes seems less flexible than the Marlin/Ramps combo, and apparently most people don't like the MK10 extruder.
The printer isn't perfect, but you can spend a lot more money and get one that is not as good.
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 19, 2016 01:42PM |
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Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 19, 2016 01:59PM |
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How much different than the oiginal Prusia I3 is this printer?
The main thing is the much more rigid aluminum frame, motors at the top, and a lot fewer 3d printed parts. The original Prusa i3 uses a flat piece of acrylic or wood as the vertical portion, with rods bolted into the bottom to hold the Y axis setup, which form the entirety of the frame. The acrylic is subject to deformation from the heat and general flexibility, but works well for most people. Folgertech sells this kit also - their acrylic Prusa i3 is pretty much exactly the standard Prusa i3, except the extruder is stronger cast plastic, not 3D printed.
The currently shipping Folgertech 2020 i3 uses a mk9 extruder, which from all accounts works better than the "mk10" on the Wanhao i3. The rigid 2020 aluminum box frame is very solid and the same construction as used in most custom factory and industrial machinery installations. Those small steel L inserts that join the corners hold them firmly at 90 degrees and keep everything square. The results from my printer, in the original stock form, were as good as my friends Wanhao duplicator, and with my modifications, seem to be better.
The Wanhao has a lot going for it. Out of the box it is a working printer. It has better bearings. It has more metal parts, and more solid construction, but the Melzi controller it includes seems less flexible than the Marlin/Ramps combo, and apparently most people don't like the MK10 extruder.
The printer isn't perfect, but you can spend a lot more money and get one that is not as good.
What other tools should I order along with a printer?
A digital caliper? And maybe a handheld point and shoot heat detector?
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 19, 2016 02:06PM |
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How much different than the oiginal Prusia I3 is this printer?
The main thing is the much more rigid aluminum frame, motors at the top, and a lot fewer 3d printed parts. The original Prusa i3 uses a flat piece of acrylic or wood as the vertical portion, with rods bolted into the bottom to hold the Y axis setup, which form the entirety of the frame. The acrylic is subject to deformation from the heat and general flexibility, but works well for most people. Folgertech sells this kit also - their acrylic Prusa i3 is pretty much exactly the standard Prusa i3, except the extruder is stronger cast plastic, not 3D printed.
The currently shipping Folgertech 2020 i3 uses a mk9 extruder, which from all accounts works better than the "mk10" on the Wanhao i3. The rigid 2020 aluminum box frame is very solid and the same construction as used in most custom factory and industrial machinery installations. Those small steel L inserts that join the corners hold them firmly at 90 degrees and keep everything square. The results from my printer, in the original stock form, were as good as my friends Wanhao duplicator, and with my modifications, seem to be better.
The Wanhao has a lot going for it. Out of the box it is a working printer. It has better bearings. It has more metal parts, and more solid construction, but the Melzi controller it includes seems less flexible than the Marlin/Ramps combo, and apparently most people don't like the MK10 extruder.
The printer isn't perfect, but you can spend a lot more money and get one that is not as good.
Yea...
What other tools should I order along with a printer?
A digital caliper? And maybe a handheld point and shoot heat detector?
I have a small tupperware of tools I keep with my printer:
a small set of wire cutters
utility knife
metric hex key set (must have 2.0mm and 2.5mm, other sizes may be used, but not as often)
metric mini wrench (spanner) set (5.5mm gets used often, I think the nozzle is 7mm)
nozzle cleaning drill set (factory nozzle is .4, get more than one 0.4 drill)
screwdriver
6inch crescent wrench
bundle of 4inch zip ties
3-in-one oil
I had a non-contact laser thermometer until my kids dropped it, so it's nice to have. I keep my digital caliper with my regular tools, so it's also wise to have around.
Another tupperware is full of spare parts, end-stop switches, wires, etc. Some spares are extras I bought such as nuts, locknuts, t-nuts, bolts, cap screws, stepper drivers, etc. I keep it all in a small tool bag that also holds the parts I haven't installed yet (z-leadscrews).
Not to get off topic, but the Wanhao looks very similar to this:
Maker Select 3D Printer from Monoprice.com
I like monoprice, but this seems a little slow, I'm not close to printing at over 100mm/sec right now, but I'd like to get there in the future. With the FT 2020 kit I think over 100mm/sec is possible, maybe with this monoprice it's not.
jhitesma:
Thanks for putting up the Wiki. I couldn't figure out how to make a sub-topic a separate page, it that easy to do on Wikia?
I think the auto-bed leveling and some of the Advanced Upgrades are great candidates for having their own pages.
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 19, 2016 02:18PM |
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Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 19, 2016 02:21PM |
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jhitesma:
Thanks for putting up the Wiki. I couldn't figure out how to make a sub-topic a separate page, it that easy to do on Wikia?
I think the auto-bed leveling and some of the Advanced Upgrades are great candidates for having their own pages.
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 19, 2016 02:23PM |
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Just realized I may need to order some additional stuff...
Is any solder/kapton tape included in the kit for those sections that need it?
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 19, 2016 02:40PM |
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Just realized I may need to order some additional stuff...
Is any solder/kapton tape included in the kit for those sections that need it?
Some kapton tape is included. You need to supply your on solder and soldering equipment, though.
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 19, 2016 02:40PM |
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jhitesma:
Thanks for putting up the Wiki. I couldn't figure out how to make a sub-topic a separate page, it that easy to do on Wikia?
I think the auto-bed leveling and some of the Advanced Upgrades are great candidates for having their own pages.
Actually that was therippa who setup the wiki, I just added some of the issues I've heard repeated and ran into myself building mine.
I agree we'll probably have to split some of the advanced stuff off onto it's own pages...I'm just not sure how to do that on wikia yet and haven't had time to add much more.
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 19, 2016 02:53PM |
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How much different than the oiginal Prusia I3 is this printer?
The original Prusa i3 uses a flat piece of acrylic or wood as the vertical portion, with rods bolted into the bottom to hold the Y axis setup, which form the entirety of the frame. The acrylic is subject to deformation from the heat and general flexibility, but works well for most people.
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Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 19, 2016 04:09PM |
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I can get a duplicator I3 for 350, thats tempting, then I can use that printer to print parts for an old prusa 2 a friend gave me.